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Princeton University FRS171/187: Earth's Environments & Ancient Civilizations
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2013
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "Please comment on the quality of class discussion,
including the extent of student participation?".
Class discussion was incredible, and student participation
was really the focus of the class.
Class discussion is always very intriguing because it's
very easily applicable to the present. I felt I gained much from both
lectures and Matlab sessions in class. The amount of material was
usually pretty overwhelming, but the professors are very helpful.
Both professors actually know how to lecture a class and
put together a powerpoint. In class labs were engaging.
This class was absolutely amazing! A ton of work, but work
that is well worth your time if you are planning to be an engineer or
researcher. Discussions and student participation are off the chart
awesome and stimulating.
Class discussion was excellent. We considered broad
questions of how the earth changed over time and drew conclusions from
our observations. Although not all of the students participated, it
seemed like everyone was engaged in the discussions.
Students were always encouraged to participate and present
there ideas. This definitely helped e to learn more in this class, as
it allowed me to form my own hypotheses on certain things.
The way this seminar was taught and structured was close
to perfection. It covered a broad range of topics and presented
detailed histories and scientific backgrounds for all of the research
topics we would be studying in the class. It truly was a model of a
perfect class. Extensive learning was achieved.
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "Seminars are taught by a variety of methods. In your
opinion, was the presentation of the material appropriate to the
subject matter of the seminar?"
Frederik and Adam are fantastic lecturers and generally
great people.
I thought that the lectures in this class were
amazing. Adam and Frederik are definitely the best lecturers that I
have experienced at Princeton so far. I learned so much from every
lecture, and the way that they presented the material was very
engaging.
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "Comment on the amount of writing and the pacing of the
assignments. Did you receive helpful criticism? Do you believe that
the seminar improved your writing skills?"
This seminar certainly improved my writing skills, maybe even more than the writing seminar.
This class is a lot of work. Sometimes (most of the time)
it felt overwhelming. That being said, I can't even be to explain how
much I've learned in this class. From matlab to latex to arcgis to
just general science writing, m communication and analysis skills have
improved exponentially. Adam and Frederik's feedback was always honest
and I knew that when I got positive feedback from them it was because
I had truly done well.
Criticism was amazingly helpful. I have become a much
better scientific writer and know how to better support my argument
with quantitative data rather than qualitative reasoning.
This seminar definitely improved my writing skills. My
research and Matlab skills improved a lot, and my LaTeX skills came
into existence. I learned how to write scientifically, research
scientifically, and support my argument logically. Criticism on my
papers, while extensive, was very helpful and the chance for a redux
was always much appreciated.
There was a lot of writing in this course, and it was
tough to keep up with a lab or paper due every week. However, the
criticism was very helpful and I am now a much better scientific
writer. I am sure these skills will be valuable in the future.
The criticism seemed overly harsh at first, but I
definitely cannot deny that I have gotten better at scientific
writing. The writing assignments often kept me up all night as they
tended to be pretty lengthy, but there was definitely guidance.
I always received helpful and extensive feedback within a
week of the due date. At first I was overwhelmed with the amount of
feedback, but after a little while I got used to it and learned to
appreciate it. The seminar greatly improved my scientific writing
skills. I can now express myself logically and concisely.
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "Please comment on in-class and out-of-class
assignments, hands-on activities, trips, and other kinds of special
opportunities, and describe how important they were to the Freshman
Seminar."
FREDERIK IS AWESOME. That is all.
The field trip to Cyprus was spectacular, and the various
other labs that we were assigned helped us to learn skills important
to the class. The work was cumulative and definitely paved a path to
the final project.
Cyprus was a fantastic trip. I am so close to my
classmates, both because we all nearly died together and because we
spent lots of time together during the trip and outside of it.
I loved the trip to cyprus; it was honestly an experience
I will never forget. Beyond it simply being a fun trip, what I learned
on the trip truly transformed the way I see the world around me. As I
learned more about each rock formation we visited, I could feel my
view of the landscape changing; rocks that had just been
indistinguishable grey blobs became something exciting and
new. Instead of just seeing the natural world and not thinking about
it, I learned to observe and question what I saw around me. At the end
of the trip, I felt like I'd been given a new pair of glasses; I could
see a layer of the world that I'd never known was there before. I
wouldn't trade that experience for all the matlab struggles in the
world.
The trip to Cyprus absolutely made the class for me. Not
only did I learn so much, but I was able to get to know other people
and explore the world. The trip was a life changing experience.
THE BEST EVER. I loved the labs, especially the
observation ones, but also the GPS one and choosing which aspect to
analyze, and the West Windsor field one was just so cool. Need I even
mention Cyprus? It was so amazing and I learned so much by living and
breathing geology for a week. As far as special opportunities go,
Monday lunches were a lovely chance to ask questions and just get to
know everyone else.
The research trip in Cyprus was an amazing experience. It
was definitely worth giving up fall break to travel to a beautiful
country and gain experience conducting field work. The assignments
were annoying at times (almost getting hit by buses while taking
waypoints), but the course as a whole does an excellent job tying
together different elements. Theory is learned in the classroom and
applied in the labs out of class. These experiences prepare students
for the research trip, and a formal presentation is prepared that
requires the use of data analysis and writing techniques. The papers
apply the same skills in a different way and incorporate archaeology
into the course.
The hands-on labs and fieldwork in Cyprus were the best
part of this class. I think I learned more in the one week I was in
Cyprus than I have in any classroom course I have ever taken. The trip
made me look at the world around me in a whole new way, and was an
amazing experience.
Our trip to Cyprus was absolutely unbeatable. We bonded
with each other and with our professors a lot. The labs were also a
lot of work but ended up being super interesting and allowed us to get
pretty involved.
We had a lot of hands on activities with the teachers and
Adam and Frederik were especially helpful in answering our
questions. I learned a lot about geology from our trip to Cyprus and
the mineral lab was so much fun! I wish we had more time and looked at
more things that related to our cyprus trip like the ophilolies and
how to look for olivine and just more time. A great class
nevertheless.
In-class we often learned what we needed to know to
complete the out-of-class assignments. The assignments were extremely
time-consuming, but very rewarding. Looking back I especially enjoyed
the labs (like the GPS lab, and the rock analyzing lab). The trip to
Cyprus was absolutely essential to this class! It brought together
everything we learned. It finally got me really interested in geology,
and then when we returned home I was able to utilize my matlab coding
skills to analyze the data we recorded in Cyprus.
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "Please use this space to tell us anything you want to
about the seminar."
So, would I do it again? Yes! But only for one
reason---Frederik. If they asked me to do it again without Frederik, I
would tell them HELL NO. To sum it up, the people that I came across
really helped me get a new perspective on life. It was the people that
made the FRS worth it.
This seminar was the hardest and best part of this
semester, and it was so rewarding.
I think that Adam and Frederik were amazing professors,
who pushed us and challenged us, but also helped us to grow as
students. I definitely felt as if they put as much into this course as
we did.
Definitely a lot of work, but the professors are great and
willing to provide a lot of individual attention. Plus the trip to
Cyprus was absolutely incredible. They're also pretty good about
answering emails so they are definitely there as a resource to make
use of.
I am so fortunate to have received the opportunity to take
this seminar. I have made some of my best friends at Princeton through
this class. We had such a fun time on our trip to Cyprus. It was
extremely stressful, a lot of work, and I cried every week, but it was
extremely rewarding and a great challenge. I have heard this class
will be one of the more demanding classes I will take during my whole
time at Princeton, and I am so happy that I survived and have learned
so much!
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "In thinking about the overall quality of the course,
please comment on what you got out of the course. What did the
instructor do particularly well, and in what ways might the course be
improved?"
Frederik is awesome; there is no way a perfect person can
improve.
This is a really amazing course (for the right person),
and the instructors are amazing.
The professors are very accessible and often held a lunch
hour for any questions we had. I think there are many things I've
learned from this class that I will use throughout my college career,
for instance, how to handle large workloads and how to collaborate
with others. I don't normally enjoy group work, but working with
others in my class has been a very rewarding experience.
Adam and Frederik were amazing instructors.
One of the best decisions I have made at Princeton so far
is to take this course. Extreme amounts of work but amazing
payoff. Maloof and Simons know what they are doing and what the more
effective way is to structure a course. They put a lot of work in and
it creates an exceptional learning experience.
I got, out of this class, friendships with thirteen really
cool undergraduates, four professors, a grad student, and a post-doc,
the skills to write a legitimate research paper, analyze data, use
Matlab and ArcGIS, the ability to use the snazziest word processing
software there is (I wrote up my resume in LaTeX), an interest in
geosciences as a major, and the chance to go to Cyprus.
Frederik was very good at giving help and feedback
throughout the course and making it enjoyable even when the work was
very stressful. The course could be improved by making the assignments
due on a different day from the day of class. I fell asleep during
lectures often, not because they were boring, but because I was so
tired from working the previous night on the assignments.
I have grown and learned so much as a student, scientist,
and writer throughout this course. I think that this course was
extremely demanding, but definitely gave me an advantage over my peers
in terms of my preparedness with academic writing. I think that a
slightly lighter workload would have enabled me to enjoy this course
more and take time to really try to improve during each assignment,
rather than always rushing to get labs or papers done.
The amount of work you put in you got out, but the papers
and matlab just took way too long. I would not trade this class though
because it was such a nice class and I have learned a lot about how I
work as a person, especially things I need to work on, but about
science and how geology fits into the contexts of the world and how to
frame the current global warming in the context of a civilization.
My professors did a particularly good job of teaching
technical skills with instrumentation such as GPS, GPR and
magnetometry. They also gave a good introduction to analytical methods
using matlab and ArcGIS. They excelled in teaching scientific
writing. The course could be improved by further emphasizing the great
amount of work the course requires in the course description. It needs
to be made clear that this class is not a cozy freshman seminar like
the rest of the seminars are. It is not a class that eases freshman
into life at Princeton.
I have learned more in this class than all my other
classes combined. Thank you!
2012
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "Please comment on the quality of class discussion,
including the extent of student participation?".
in depth class discussions, very interesting, diverse opinions
Very lively discussion
This class was engaging.
While the classes were lectures they encouraged questions
and discussions. I always felt comfortable engaging in discussion and
I always received thorough explanations.
The class discussions were always very interesting and the
lectures given by the professors were generally fascinating to anyone
interested in the earth sciences.
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "Comment on the amount of writing and the pacing of the
assignments. Did you receive helpful criticism? Do you believe that
the seminar improved your writing skills?"
massive amounts of writing, pacing sometimes absurd. lots
of work. be prepared. lots of helpful criticism, as well, though so
you do become a better writer.
A lot of writing, and very useful feedback was given each tme.
This writing seminar has taught me how to write scientific
papers. The writing assignments are spaced out enough to be
productive.
Before this seminar, I never wrote any kind of scientific
paper, so in that aspect this seminar improved my writing skills.
The writing was extremely numerous and the pacing was very
fast, but criticism was very detailed and very helpful. The seminar
definitely improved my scientific writing skills.
The assignments were difficult and very self-guided. The
papers seemed unrelated to the lecture material and were very
challenging to research. However I did receive excellent feedback and
my science writing improved immensely.
The criticism, though plentiful, was extremely helpful. I
would whine about all the work I had to do for the class while I was
doing it, but when all I was said and done I could tell I had learned
a lot and improved. I have a feeling I'll continue to reap the rewards
from the hard-earned knowledge I gained in this class well into the
future.
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "Please comment on in-class and out-of-class
assignments, hands-on activities, trips, and other kinds of special
opportunities, and describe how important they were to the Freshman
Seminar."
The trip to Cyprus was amazing. I learned so much on that trip.
The trip to Cyprus was extraordinarily interesting. The
geologic formations were very instructive as well as the assignments
we were given once there.
I think the trip to Cyprus transformed this class from
being my most time-consuming, stressful class this semester to my most
time-consuming, stressful class that I wouldn't trade in a million
years.
Our class trip to Cyprus was by far my favorite part of
the class. The hands-on learning experience was really piqued my
interest in Geoscience.
Cyprus was a great experience, definitely not a vacation,
as we spent it looking at rocks and collecting data that was central
to most of the work we did in the second half of the semester.
The best part of this class was the fall break trip to
Cyprus. While this trip required a lot of work (days began at 6am and
ended around 11pm or later), it was a wonderful experience.
CYPRUS: Very very cool opportunity, a once in a lifetime
experience. Extremely challenging (physically, intellectually,
emotionally) but memorable. The trip to Cyprus was certainly not a
pleasure trip, and if you think it's going to be you should not take
this class. It was hard, hard work, and it was very much "learn or
die".
THE TRIP WAS INCREDIBLE (but exhausting).
The trip to Cyprus was the best aspect of this course and
was really a once in a lifetime experience. While it was very
demanding, the the trip was certainly a great experience and involved
a lot of learning and work.
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "Please use this space to tell us anything you want to
about the seminar."
This is a truly awesome seminar.
The research opportunities that resulted from this trip
were life changing.
This seminar definitely teaches you a lot of stuff,
perhaps on a level that's a little beyond what freshmen
expected. Nevertheless, I would still strongly recommend taking this
as I am grateful for all the skills and things I learned through this
seminar. If you do take this seminar, be prepared for a very very
heavy course load and two very demanding (but friendly and helpful)
professors. Plan your week well and do assignments early as they are
weekly assigned, and expect the trip to be as much work as on campus.
The professors were very personable, were always
available to answer questions and encouraged personal relationships.
This seminar challenged me in ways I have never been
challenged before. I was pushed to my limits intellectually and
occasionally emotionally
The trip was intense. It was amazing and draining at the
same time. Coming off of midterms all I wanted to do was crawl into
bed and sleep, but instead i was trekking around cyprus lugging rocks
up and down mountains....which was super, super cool, but also made me
want to keel over at times. it was great to get to know the
professors, though. if i had to make the decision whether to take this
class all over again, i would take it only because of hte
professors. they made the class.
This was a good and interesting course that was a
beneficial experience. It was by far the most work of any course I had
this semester and was highly demanding. A lot of individual effort was
required for any form of success and while there was a lot to be
gained, it was sometimes difficult to see through the massive amounts
of work required.
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "In thinking about the overall quality of the course,
please comment on what you got out of the course. What did the
instructor do particularly well, and in what ways might the course be
improved?"
overall quality of the course is excellent. the planning
is really awesome, and again, you get a lot of time management,
writing, and geological knowledge out of it. do know that its heavy on
science though.
I learnt scientific writing, how to do basic research,
field observation skills.
I learned how to organize a field survey, conduct my own
research, work in groups, write scientific papers, identify rocks,
present my findings from my research, and write in a field notebooks.
On top of the geoscience materials covered in the seminar,
I learned a lot about science research and scientific writing, which I
think are very helpful. The class was very well planned out and
incorporated many interesting topics and materials, but the course
load could be lightened.
The professors had high expectations that were difficult
to meet and were frustrating in the beginning, but in the end I was so
happy they pushed us to do so much. I learned a lot about research and
how to write scientific papers as well as the subject matter.
Frederik and Adam were the highlight of this class, they
made us feel comfortable and gave the class a very unique feel. Adam
is a born teacher, he is very articulate and passionate. Frederik is
hilarious and always willing to help. Their interactions were awesome.
This course taught me the basics of scientific research,
writing and data-formatting. The Cyprus trip was a great opportunity
to get a hands-on look at what field work is like for a geologist or
geophysicist. The professors are great people and I'm glad I got to
know them on a personal level so well (Cyprus was great for that).
It was easy to complain about the course because of hte
difficulty and volume of hte work, but every time I got a response to
my frantic email at 4 am I was reminded of the fact that the
professors were working even harder.
I am very glad I took this course. Although I sometimes
hated it during the year, I really appreciated getting to know Adam
and Frederik. Visiting Cyprus was an experience I will never forget,
and now I am even considering Geo-science for my major.
2011
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "Please comment on the quality of class discussion,
including the extent of student participation."
Class discussions were excellent. Professors would often
ask probing questions that encouraged independent thought, especially
in the field. They were very encouraging of student participation.
Though there was a lot of good interaction between
students, I don't think class discussion was a primary method of
information exchange in this seminar. Students had to participate in
the class to really become engaged, which I thought was good.
Class sessions were highly engaging. Generally, Adam and
Frederik would present a slideshow, with ample time for questions
(which were encouraged) and musings.
The class was very interesting. I learned a lot from the
professors who encouraged us to do a lot of our own research.
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "Comment on the amount of writing and the pacing of the
assignments. Did you receive helpful criticism? Do you believe that
the seminar improved your writing skills?"
The papers, labs, and projects require a great deal of
writing, but even more of getting figures done (all assignments
require figures drawn up in Matlab, ArcGIS, etc) and getting LaTeX to
format right. If you don't procrastinate everything is doable, until
you start getting into the second half of the semester, where you get
buried by group projects, a final project, and continued quizzes. If
you have little experience with programming and using LaTeX, and
refuse to spend quality time acquainting yourself with them, you will
have a hard time; approach these with an open mind for best
results. The instructors have lots of criticism for what seems like
every line of your assignments, which are very helpful. They really
teach you to write concise, clear, scientific papers.
There was a lot of writing but we always had ample time to
do it. The criticism was pretty harsh but it helped me improve
throughout the semester.
The workload for this class was incredible. It was a
constant bombardment of tasks, and it was not uncommon for multiple
significant assignments to be due on the same day. Like being thrown
in the deep end, this was a powerful way to force time management. And
because there was so much work, I absolutely did learn a huge amount.
While the workload was high, I got great practice with
scientific writing. Adam and Frederik will both take a great deal of
time to provide you with meaningful comments on your writing
assignments. I matured tremendously as a scientific writer through
this class.
The assignments were paced well most of the time. I
received a good amount of helpful criticism, and I believe that the
seminar improved my writing skills for scientific papers.
I think that this seminar was very helpful. I learned to
write a science paper, which is a skill that you don't always have the
chance to develop in this way. The professors were really helpful when
they gave us feedback
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "Please comment on in-class and out-of-class
assignments, hands-on activities, trips, and other kinds of special
opportunities, and describe how important they were to the Freshman
Seminar".
There was an optional trip to the Catskills and a
mandatory one to Cyprus. I did just the latter, and it was fun, but
also exhausting. It's not fun on the beach time (though we did do that
a few times); rather you spend the whole day looking at interesting
geologic sites, doing scientific experiments, examining archaeological
sites, and you spend the night evaluating the data you collected. The
trip is central to the class-it's what gives the class it's name, and
takes up the second half of the semester in the form of a group
project where you present findings on the data you collected on the trip.
The trip to Cyprus was an integral part of the course and
defined our work for the second half of the semester.
The trip to Cyprus was definitely the defining feature of
this class. I took this class solely to go to Cyprus during fall
break... I didn't care how hard the class was, I was determined to go
on this trip. The trip was awesome, but we were not sight seeing or on
vacation. It was a lot of work. There was a ton of work that came out
of the class - a group project that was the reason I stayed up all
night every Wednesday from November to December.
However the quality of the tasks assigned was
superb. Despite the workload, the assignments for this class were
easily the most interesting and engaging for me. They always
encouraged independent thought, and encouraged us to use real
techniques to gather real data and write real papers - I have yet to
take a class anywhere else that really shows what the subject is like
beyond the classroom. The trip to Cyprus was awesome! Again we used
real research techniques to gather real data, and the day trips around
the country examining geological and archaeological features was
invaluable - it was something that one cannot learn from any
textbook. And besides the educational aspects of it, it was just plain fun!
The assignments, activities, trips, and special
opportunities were essential to the freshman seminar. I enjoyed the
hands-on aspect of the class and felt like I got an opportunity really
see science "work" in the real world, which was great. Getting to go
see an actual ophialite was especially valuable.
The field trip to Cyprus was the highlight of the class. I
actually felt like I understood the material when I was it hands on.
I honestly could write a 10 page essay about how
incredible the trips (New York, Cyprus, Cyprus, and Cyprus) were. But
even that wouldn't do it justice. So just take my word for it, the
trips were everything I hoped for and more. I mean, we worked in the
site of a fricking iron age civilization!! We really did work from
morning to night, but the geology, archaeology, and history we learned
about was absolutely fascinating. The professors are both really
fun-loving and hilarious, which added to the general awesomeness.
The trip to Cyprus was incredible as well that the trip of
Catskills. I learned so much from both and had an experience of a
lifetime. I will quote Professor Maloof when he said that "you will
never regret a trip." After listening to Adam and Frederik, you can't
really look at the Earth the same.
The trip was my favorite part of the class. It was great
to get to know faculty members and classmates. I loved that we were
able to see interesting geological sites as well as interesting
archaeological ones. Cyprus is a special place. The group project
based on our experiment in Peristeres was really meaningful, because
it gave us the opportunity to learn to work effectively in groups, and
to carry experiments to meaningful conclusions.
Every paragraph below is an individual student's answer to the
question: "In thinking about the overall quality of the course,
please comment on what you got out of the course. What did the
instructor do particularly well, and in what ways might the course be
improved?"
Out of this course I gained an appreciation of geology,
and the ability to use the programs Matlab and LaTex. The instructors
really cared about this course, and their preparation and dedication
really was astounding.
Easily the best course I took this semester - it really
showed me what a career in the geosciences would be like, and was an
excellent foundation from which I can take further geosciences
courses. Like I mentioned earlier, the one thing I would change is the
workload.
I think I gained a lot of analytic skills from this
course. I learned about a subject that I had never considered before,
and I am considering being a Geosciences concentrator because of it.
Good job Adam and Frederik. Just reform your quiz policy
and you've got the perfect course.
I think the one thing I would would change would be the
reading quiz policy. However, this was probably my favorite class this
semester. It was a once in a lifetime experience.
Frederik Simons
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